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Cycling On Pavememts

Started by: jo anne (34726) 

'Cyclists in Wigan are being warned they well be fined for riding on pavements following a crackdown by Greater Manchester Police.

GMP say hundreds have been fined over the past year and more will follow ...

But cycling groups have urged common sense to prevail when it comes to clamping down on pavement use.

Peter Able, from the Greater Manchester Love Your Bike campaign, urged authorities to resort to the courts only in the worst cases.

He said: “We don’t know the details of all the prosecutions. The law is clear that adults should not use cycles on footpaths.

“I think common sense needs to apply."


www.wigantoday.net

Started: 19th Sep 2012 at 13:31

Posted by: jo anne (34726) 

"Pavememts" I mean Pavements, too.

Replied: 19th Sep 2012 at 13:32

Posted by: peawapp (5107) 

a stiff arm to the neck in the manner of Rugby League players of the fifties and sixties ,would be preferable to the threat of a fine which will never materialise

Replied: 19th Sep 2012 at 13:37

Posted by: tomplum (12540) 

I think it makes good sense to ride on the pavement if no-ones using it, Its safer than risking being run down by a motorist on a phone, which are plentyfull, Its just a case of 'giving way' to the predestrian,

Replied: 19th Sep 2012 at 13:41

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Softlad gave way to a cyclist on a a Zebra crossing recently. (Kicks self)

But SHE was rather nice looking.

Replied: 19th Sep 2012 at 13:53

Posted by: peawapp (5107) 

soft bugger

Replied: 19th Sep 2012 at 14:13

Posted by: Cadfael (inactive)

If it is the police who deal with this it will be a good thing, the police will apply common sense... there will be times it is safer to mount the pavement. There are temporary lights on Atherton Road at the moment and I have found cars stuck behind me in a single lane... one or two times the driver has tried to pass me even though it is obvious there is no room. I do mount the pavement to let him and other cars pass. It is safer for me to do so, and it does not hold up traffic... and I do take care for pedestrians.

But, if this is passed over to a third party to police it will become about money and soft targets. I am reminded of a litter officer who fined a mother whose child had dropped a piece of food, whilst yards away group of youths where dropping cigarette stumps on the floor. I can see a situation where a child on a bike is fined if a third party polices it.

Replied: 19th Sep 2012 at 14:16

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

I know, I know.

Usually a bugbear of mine.

I feel like shouting "Ater you a pedestrian or a bloody road user?"

But in this instance I was distracted.

Replied: 19th Sep 2012 at 14:16

Posted by: peawapp (5107) 

nice looking eh ,did this event take place in Leyth then

Replied: 19th Sep 2012 at 14:20

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Certainly not.

Despite my having visited the infernal place quite recently.

Replied: 19th Sep 2012 at 14:33

Posted by: whups (13291) 

i can see the point of not riding on the pavement, but after losing freinds who got knocked-down by hit & run drivers i can sympathise when they ride on the pavements.

Replied: 20th Sep 2012 at 12:44

Posted by: mache (inactive)

but not the victims of hit & run cyclists ? or am I unique in suffering this

Replied: 20th Sep 2012 at 13:05

Posted by: jo anne (34726) 

I haven't, Mache, but there have been a few near misses.

Mostly, I don't object to cyclists using the pavements if the way is clear, and even sometimes when there are pedestrians, so long as they cycle with due care and consideration.

Replied: 20th Sep 2012 at 13:15

Posted by: wigvet (3550)

Poolstock Lane is THE pavement cycling thoroughfare

Can count at least 4 each morning and today one was cycling on the pavement, dodging pedestrians, with one hand whilst holding a brolly with the other! I jest ye not

Replied: 20th Sep 2012 at 13:15

Posted by: mache (inactive)

I have just y/tubed idiot cyclists, spoilt for choice

Replied: 20th Sep 2012 at 13:24

Posted by: Cadfael (inactive)

Mache... you would also be spoilt for choice looking for idiot drivers.

I am not saying you are wrong, and it is the dangerous idiots this legislation is for. But to use the pavement responsibly when you have to for safety reasons should be allowed. A 100% ban would lead to deaths in my opinion.

Replied: 20th Sep 2012 at 13:44

Posted by: jo anne (34726) 

In theory, there is a 100% ban, Cadfael - The law is clear that adults should not use cycles on footpaths.

Given that, I wondered if the law should be amended to make it legal for cyclists to use pavements responsibly.

But thought this could pave the way for a free-for-all between pedestrians and cyclists. Possibly.

So, I then decided the law ought not to be changed, but common sense applied, as some cycling groups are advocating.

TOM said, 'The "only issue fines in worst cases", is a rather foolish one.'

But, I think that's the way to go.

Replied: 20th Sep 2012 at 14:10

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

They'll be riding mopeds on the pavement next.

Saves waitiing at a red light.

(Seen by my own minces)

Replied: 20th Sep 2012 at 14:12

Posted by: dodger (3414)

I wonder if they will be giving fines out here

Replied: 20th Sep 2012 at 14:16
Last edited by dodger: 20th Sep 2012 at 14:16:33

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Non segregate cycleways and pavements.There apppears to be no difference one has a blue sign depicting a bike and a pedestrian. We are surrounded by these, and I object having to step into the road to get out of a cyclists way

Replied: 20th Sep 2012 at 14:17

Posted by: jo anne (34726) 

That situation can be treacherous, Erontquay.

Replied: 20th Sep 2012 at 15:03

Posted by: mache (inactive)

worse with a pram

Replied: 20th Sep 2012 at 15:15

Posted by: ahcawntspeyk (6142)

Posted by: tomplum (2069) [View tomplum's page] [1,000+] Report abuse

I think it makes good sense to ride on the pavement if no-ones using it, Its safer than risking being run down by a motorist on a phone, which are plentyfull, Its just a case of 'giving way' to the predestrian,



I think that's the daftest post ever seen on here.

Replied: 23rd Sep 2012 at 21:45

 

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